Welcome!
Take things slow. Read a lot, do not make sharp moves with family still in.
Congratulations on your waking up!
-Yan
i have been lurking on this site for the past 2 months.
for the past few years i have been going to the meetings and doing fieldservice out of guilt.. my husband (twisty) told me regularly i only do it out of guilt but i denied it and said it i want to do these things because i love jehovah and it is the right thing to do, but how can it be the right thing if you don't feel welcome and it feels like everyone is judging you the moment you walk into the kingdom hall.. it has taken a few years and a lot of tears to open my eyes.. over the past few years twisty spoke to me about the various things he didn't agree with but it just went over my head.
a few months ago we were lying in bed and he brought up his concerns again, and i'm not sure what was different this time but i understood and agreed with the points he was making.
Welcome!
Take things slow. Read a lot, do not make sharp moves with family still in.
Congratulations on your waking up!
-Yan
in the march 1, 2012 public wt, pg.23:.
"...when people come to an accurate knowledge.
of god and want to serve him, they are.
In the March 1, 2012 Public WT, Pg.23:
"...When people come to an accurate knowledge
of God and want to serve him, they are
baptized “in the name of the Father and of the
Son and of the holy spirit.”
Yo, numbnut$, you skipped the ORG.
the audio files are already available.
or am i just being overanxious?
maybe i have to wait til later in the day for them to post the pdf.
Serenity, looks like you are good now...
the audio files are already available.
or am i just being overanxious?
maybe i have to wait til later in the day for them to post the pdf.
Why all the zeal, sister?
that much, according to Wolfram Alpha (very cool)
http://www.livescribe.com/en-us/smartpen/echo/.
this is awesome...and pretty inconspicuous, i'd say....
I dunno, UC. This screams "Brazen Conduct" and they don't even need you to be present at the next JC when they (the 3 elder witnesses) DF you for the Brazen Conduct...
The system is rigged
just wanted to introduce myself.
this board looks very interesting.
i look forward to getting to know everyone here.
Welcome Tofayel!
Tell us a bit about yourself when you feel like it. In the meantime, read as much as you can.
-Yan
hi, i am new to studying with the jw's and would like to know they best way to start.
any suggestions?.
What a wus!
Ye, come back and put me in my place if you have an ounce of backbone left!
No, this is not "persecution", it is telling you the way it is.
in watchtower teaching, what were the "anointed remnant" doing between the death of the apostle john and the coming of pastor russell?.
during all those centuries, there was no visible organization publishing watchtower literature so as to enable people to understand the bible.
there was no organized worldwide door-to-door preaching work being done (who assigned territories and kept track of time records, for example?).
Ding, excellent points.
Unfortunatelly, your train of thought requires LINEAR reasoning.
Whereas, any droned JW would be inculcated, repeatedly forcefed, mercilessly gangraped and often suffocated to near death with CIRCULAR reasoning.
reading idly through this magazine , i read the study article "rejoicing in our hope" which discusses the two "hopes" according to the wtbts ie heaven & earth.. a couple of points were of interest:.
(1) absolutely no mention at all of the 144,000 or rev 14. usually an article like this would be filled with references , but it isn't even mentioned.
it does discuss the "limited number" , but only in contrast with the "no man can number" great crowd.. (2) a much more laid back attitude towards the two hopes.
....announce that only the Governing Body members themselves comprise the "Faithful and Discreet Slave"
Mary, as much as this would consolidate control, I see this as a dangerous liability move from a legal standpoint. Now the world would have specific individuals to hang for advice/direction given. The FDS as a concept is way more slippery.
It is really trempting, but I doubt the lawyers within will let them do it.